Archive for March, 2006
EFFECTS OF LOWER TIRE SIZE AND ODOMETER READING/ENGINE RPM
Posted by Tim on March 9, 2006
I recently changed from a 245/50ZR16 with a 25.7″ diameter tire to a 245/50WR16 with a 25.6″ diameter. I noticed that after this change, the odometer was reading about 1/20th of a mile short of an actual mile when comparing to the mile markers, but oddly enough the engine RPM’s are higher. When I had the 25.7″ tall tires, the engine rpm’s at 80 were 2,000 rpms. Now with the 25.6″ tall tires, 2,000 rpms registers at 73 mph. It seems to me here that with a shorter tire height, the rpms should be higher, but it should register more than a mile for every mile on the odometer. Any thoughts? Could one tenth of an inch in wheel height make that much difference in speedometer reading and engine RPM?
For any vehicle, it stands to reason that smaller diameter tires will result in higher engine RPM's at the same speed. It also seems to me that the odometer should read just as you report, less distance traveled for the smaller diameter tire. The odometer reading is based on counting tire revolutions. It is calibrated to determine distance based on the number of revolutions the tires turns. The tire with the smaller diameter has not traveled as far at the same number of revolutions as the larger diameter tire.
Two Questions on Fuel Economy and Tire Size
Posted by Tim on March 2, 2006
Q1 If I switch from 11R22.5 to LP22.5 size tires, what will the fuel saving would be?
Q2 Which tire size gives you better MPG, 11R22.5 or 11R24.5? Why?
Both of these questions refer to changing tire sizes and the resulting affect on fuel economy. In both cases, we must assume that the "tall" tire and the "short" tire have a similar tread compound. In each case, switching to a tire with a smaller diameter can improve the fuel economy of a vehicle by 1) lowering the vehicle which will reduce the aerodynamic drag and 2)reducing the total weight of the tires and wheels on the vehicle. But, in order for the engine to turn over the same RPM's at any particular road speed, the final drive ratio must be adjusted for the smaller diameter tires. Failure to adjust the gearing will give you a false indication of savings (the odometer will say the vehicle has gone more miles that it really has gone) and the higher engine RPM (at the same speed) will actually burn more fuel than before.
Tire Size Change
Posted by Tim on March 1, 2006
My 2005 Toyota Avalon came with 215/55R17 tires. To buy replacement tires when it comes time I can only buy certain brands and types in that size, however I have a much bigger choice of brands and types if I go to a 225/R55R17. My question is can I go to that size on the same rim and not have any problems.
Before changing tire sizes from the original on any vehicle, I strongly suggest checking with the vehicle dealer or manufacturer to see what is and is not recommended. A larger tire may rub something under the fender. Any change in tire diameter will effect gearing and odometer / speedometer readings. Know all the issues before making a change.
Vehicle Vibration Issue
Posted by Tim on March 1, 2006
I have a 1993 International 9300 that vibrates like crazy around 55-65 mph. (feels like its going to hop off the road). I changed and balanced the front tires and the vibration is still there. I also feel the vibration slightly at around 35-37 mph. Does this sound like it could be a bad tire on the back? I noticed that if I have a heavy trailer, the vibration isn’t nearly as bad. But is still there.
It's entirely possible the vibration is coming from the drive axle(s). It could be caused by balance or runout on one or more tires, wheels, hubs, etc. A big flatspot from brake lockup can cause this. The reason it happens only at certain speeds is at that speed the problem component is shaking at just the right frequency to match a natural resonance in the truck. The most common thing we see is high rear runout (from the combination of a tire and wheel) setting off the frame rails' natural tendency to bend in the middle, or "beam". This kind of shaking is supposed to be controlled by the truck's shocks and bushings. But on a high mileage truck, these items are probably pretty worn.
If it was my truck I'd go to a good tire shop and ask them to check rear tire runout ON THE TRUCK. Any up in the 0.100" range are suspicious. If they find one or more high ones, there are tricks they might be able to use besides simply throwing on new tires. They will also be able to check for high runout wheels, which are pretty common, especially steel wheels. If there are no high runout assemblies, they could go for balance. But that would tell me something is wrong with the truck. It would be very unusual to have to balance drive tires that have good runout.




